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Loin Girders

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Monday, September 26, 2005

Orthodox Shmorthodox

I am fascinated by Orthodoxy. I'll admit it. It draws me. Until I fully understand, from several sources, the split between Rome and the East, I'll be restless. Yet, yesterday, after thought-provoking interactions with Fr. John Heckers in the Narthax at Epiphany, I listened to a CD teaser called Hymned on the way up to see Aspen gold with my wife above Georgetown. The first song was a paen to the singer's grandmother, whose rendition of "In the Sweet By and By" he fondly remembered and to whom he credited his personal faith in Christ. Isn't the faith of his Grandmother, lover of Christ, a part of the "true" church in some deep way? Yes, I think it is.


Although there were Treaty of Tordesillas Catholic incursions of the faith into America, Christianity came to North America through Protestant roots and spread West. Over the centuries, its development into its currently realized secular expression has created the vacuum which the Orthodox now come to fill.

Everything in our deeply intelligent creation seems tied to everything else. In plant communities, there is a complexity that is simple. Plants are never found alone, but in community. Each member of the community somehow intermingled and dependent on the others. From no plants in an area, communities migrate in in sequence. Vegetation geographers call this vegetation succession. Open soil (let's not think about how open soil happens right here, please) is first invaded by plants who tolerate direct sun and dry, even poor soil. They break the bare soil and cover it rapidly. Many call them weeds, much like we look at dandelions. In breaking the soil, they begin to create micro-climates that allow other plants to come in. Eventually, the entire first community of "weeds" is moved out, replaced by plants more suited to the soil and climate, in denser, more complex community. Tall and short, acid resistant and alkaline resistant, drought resistant and water tolerant. Life flourishes this way, but it also has a redundancy built into it with variations that can come to the fore when drought comes, when rain is excessive, when winters are severe, when warming is dominant.

The plant community is the expression of life. Each plant had its place and importance in the evolution of the biome. Even the animals, presumably disruptive, have a place, tightly woven into the intricate symbiosis.

As I listened to this man sing of his grandmother's faith, I began to look at the presence of the Orthodox and the Christianity of America as an incidence of development of God's world and the achievement of His purpose after the pattern of plants. There is no mistake here. There is no imperfection. The frontier needed Evangelism, and the traditional, locally focussed Orthodox were not adapted for that purpose. They got to America as an exceptionally sheltered and exotic species. To grow, the Orthodox needed an environment that gave a higher value to tradition and structure than has been available in America until now. What kind of soil do the Orthodox need to survive and thrive? The Orthodox need a time of apostasy, doctrinal confusion, humanist philosophy which denies God, and openness to mysterium tremendum due to disaffection with mundane life. This social soil is now prepared for their ascent. So, Orthodoxy is replacing earlier simpler extensions of the kingdom. But does this make Orthodoxy "true" and Methodism "false" in Christ. I don't think so, anymore than it would make sense to say that dandelions are "true" and creosote bushes are "false". The full expression of every place on earth will include a mature Christian form, suited to the place and time and people and history and climate (physical and intellectual). God knows what this will look like, in His plan. I know that a community with many varieties seems to be part of everything else in creation. Why should our religious expression be any different.

One of my professors was A. W. Kuchler. He taught me about plant communities and succession. His vegetation maps were of "natural potential vegetation". He wanted to show what the planet would look like when succession reached stasis. I think that the stasis he sought was a wild goose, personally. The flaw in his concept was that fact that "change" is part of the system, so communities evolve and change in response. Most faculty and grad students in the geography department thought his "natural potential vegetation" was a mystical concept. In order for it to have any plausability, it seemed that man needed to be removed from the planet. But, unlike current environmentalists, we didn't all believe that man was unnatural. He was just the most disruptive species on our planet. All the other species had their disruptive effects, too. And, since God made us all, I think He knows what is "natural", and would certainly include man in His equation. Like Kuchler, I think that Fr. John Heckers, is viewing Orthodoxy as a potential natural state of fully developed Christianity. I think in doing so, he is forgetting the role of the dandelion, and its beauty. It fulfills a purpose in God's plan, like the Methodists and Baptists, whose purpose was to bring the word of God to America. The dandelion brings plant life. The "offspring of the whore of Babylon" brought Christ to America. They weren't the only species, but they dominated their phytogeocenase for awhile. But succession in religious expression continues. According to Kuchler, all microclimates and megaclimates have a potential natural succession stasis they are moving toward. Fr. Heckers thinks that Orthodoxy is that stasis in Christianity. He might be right, for this place and time. But he should not deride the species that prepared the soil and which created the social microclimate that Orthodoxy now enjoys and in which it thrives. This too was God's action, not the mistake he thinks he sees, but the preparation for the ground he exists on.

5 Comments:

  • At 11:40 AM, September 26, 2005, Blogger voixd'ange said…

    "I know that a community with many varieties seems to be part of everything else in creation."

    The principal at the school where I work just turned 60. She is half Black and half Greek. Her mother is Greek. She was born in a era where interacial marriage was far from common and unaccepted. she didn't attend church growing up because she was not accepted by the Greek Orthodox Church nor the Black Church of her father's family. She spoke about this at mass yesterday. As she was leaving the church a young Greek woman approached her. She is married to a black man. the Greek Orthodox Church will not baptize their baby.
    Can someone explain to me why this is the case?

     
  • At 2:28 PM, September 26, 2005, Blogger Unknown said…

    From Fr. John Heckers to you, Ange:

    I don't know how to reply to the question this person asked. Please forward the following response...

    I am sorry that this issue has come up for you. It must be very painful.

    I don't know the situation, but I can tell you for a near fact that it has nothing to do with one of the parties being African American whatsoever. I can make a couple of educated guesses.

    1). Most likely: They were not married in the Church and the Orthodox member of the couple is not active, nor is their family. Therefore, the baby has no connection to the Church. Infant baptism, for us, isn't just a ritual. It is done in the context of a a committed mother and father raising a child in the Faith. If they haven't darkened the door of the Church in years and just want the kid dunked, we'd all refuse. Baptism isn't just naming a kid or some magic ritual. It is a Sacrament, and must be done within the context of a loving ORTHODOX family and a loving ORTHODOX community. I'll baptize if the grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc. are very active. But I won't just dunk a kid. It doesn't accomplish anything since Orthodox don't believe in the Western concept of Original Sin.

    2). If this is not the case, and both are baptized, and were married in the Church, then neither of them are active in the Church. See above.

    3). Least likely, but possible, though disgusting: The priest is a bigot who forgets that about a fifth of the Orthodox Christians in the World are Black, and the oldest continuous Orthodox monarchy, that of Ethiopia, was, last time I looked, composed of black people. Although the monarchy ended some 20 years ago, many, many Ethiopians are both black and Orthodox, and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church goes back to Apostolic Times.

    I will send this query on to my bishop for any other guesses.

    Interracial marriage has NEVER been a problem in Orthodoxy, and we have consistently condemned any kind of racism or bigotry. It is considered a serious sin in Orthodoxy to be a racist, or exclude others because of race.

    Fr. John Heckers
    Holy Cross Orthodox Church
    Denver, CO

     
  • At 3:50 PM, September 26, 2005, Blogger Unknown said…

    Fr. John asked his bishop about your situation, Ange. Here is his answer:

    Dear Father,

    Christ is in our midst!

    The only canonical grounds which exist for NOT baptizing a child is as you have outlined. Mind you, our jurisdiction comes from the Patriarchate of Alexandria which is in Africa so I know that the color of one’s skin is totally irrelevant!

    I suggest that the person sit down with you and privately discuss all of the circumstances, and if there are no canonical impediments, that you baptize the baby after the mother makes her confession (if she has not been to church in a while) and her communion.

    Again, I reiterate your point that this is not a “magical rite” but a shared commitment between the parents, child, and god parents.

    For the record, I have always insisted that one of the godparents of a child be a member of the congregation who is not related but who can be an icon of the Orthodox life and insure that the child is brought up in the Faith. This person is in addition to the godparents who are chosen by the parents.

    I hope this helps.

    Faithfully,

    +Anthony

    New York

     
  • At 6:59 AM, September 27, 2005, Blogger voixd'ange said…

    Thank you for the time devoted to giving me an answer and for your honesty. i would have replied sooner but my home computer is defunct at present.I suspectd that those would be the answers i received, but I am wondering if a sincere effort is being made to make those of different backgrounds feel welcome in the church? And i am not jsut wondering this about Orthodoxy, but really all congregations. My school principal didn't feel welcome in the Black church or the White church....

     
  • At 7:01 AM, September 27, 2005, Blogger voixd'ange said…

    sorry about the spelling and grammar... As i said my home computer is defunct at present and I am trying to rush an answer.

     

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