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Loin Girders

A passionate orthodox Christian man's occasional blog to support those who stand firm. Gird your loins, noble warriors for Christ.

Thursday, July 20, 2006


Empty and Meaningless vs. Meaning and Purpose:
A quick comparison of the worldviews of Werner Erhart and Rick Warren (pictured).

My brother and his wife have recently been through the Forum and the Advanced Course of Landmark Education, which grew out of the work of Werner Erhart, originally called Erhart Sensitivity Training, or EST.

I wanted to write them a little about my take on this material in retrospect. I took it years ago. I endorsed the Curriculum for Living, of which these courses are two-thirds, because they give the student a rich perspective on their own ways of thinking and the “meaning making” that surrounds them. However, there are reasons to find “the training” troubling as well. One of them is the subject of this little blurb. It is the “distinction” that life is “empty and meaningless” and therefore you assign your own meaning to it and so does everyone else. That distinction is not helpful to the pursuit of God.

The reason I’m writing this now is that during my recent stay in Louisville, in their bed, I saw Rick Warren’s book on the bedside table. The purpose of Warren’t book is to show the opposite: viz, life has meaning and purpose. The gospel of Jesus Christ sanctifies life and the teachings of Genesis and the Torah through Jesus interpretation and the bible as a whole show it. The gospel (good news), in brief, is that what is in front of us is not meaningless data to be interpreted to your purpose, but instead all life has a meaning and purpose, found in Christ, the Creator, ruler and sustainer of Creation. If Jesus is who he says he is, then the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ are the most important facts in the universe. And, more, our life finds meaning and purpose by resonating with the god-Man and doing his will, not ours. You can’t get more contrast in two ideas than that.

In the Forum and Advanced Course, there is not much discussion of religion, but it is there nonetheless. The statement that life is empty and meaningless is a religious statement! No proof is offered. We are used to cultural commentators and scholars doing this, so we don’t see it. But, this statement is a religious tenet which includes the distinction that matters of faith can neither be true nor false because they are in the realm of faith, not knowledge. Once again, no proof is offered because we all believe this. Nevertheless, this too is a religious statement. It offers a “truth” without proof. It is a foundation principle for secular religion.

So, in taking the Forum and going to church or reading Rick Warren’s life, the aspirant has one foot in the Judeo-Christian worldview and one in the modern secular worldview. No wonder people feel at sea. Over time, we all have to pick. You can’t organize your life around meaningless meaning or empty fullness. We have about six thousand years of accepting and operating on the Judeo-Christian tenets and only about a hundred years of experimentation on the tenets of secular religion. We’ve had some success with the former and we have found some weaknesses in the secular paradigm, only recently. Secular humanism leads to blather and real suffering; it was and is not a panacea. In order to give it a good hearing, the cultural elites demonized Judeo-Christian truths. I think we’d better go back and see whether we threw the Christ child out with the bath water, don’t you think?

7 Comments:

  • At 7:29 AM, July 26, 2006, Blogger Dan Trabue said…

    "Meaningless! Meaningless!" says the Teacher. "Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless."

    You must hate Ezekiel...

    And 6000 years of operating under Judeo-Christian values? Which years were those?

    You know that I'm mostly ribbing you. Certainly, what matters in the end (as the author of Ecclesiates gets around to) is to worship/accept God and God's way. Nihilism is a boor.

     
  • At 1:44 PM, December 16, 2006, Blogger GuruTruth said…

    There is a wealth of information available on the internet about the controversial Large Group Awareness Training organization Landmark Education and its associated "The Forum" course, previously known as "The Forum" under Werner Erhard and Associates, the "technology" of which was developed by Werner Erhard and utilized in his prior "EST Training" or "Erhard Seminars Training".

    A documentary came out in France, Voyage to the Land of the New Gurus, which details some of the for-profit company's interesting practices. The film aired to 1.5 million people in France. One month after it aired, the company shut down in France. The company attempted to use the Digital Millenium Copyright Act in order to get this video off the internet. More about this at Landmark Education stumbles stupidly to hollow settlement, Landmark Education wants to make French news report a “forbidden video” on the Net and at Why did Landmark Education leave France? as well as at the Electronic Frontier Foundation's legal page, Landmark and the Internet Archive and in an article from Reuters which went into The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times, among many other papers, at Google faces legal challenges over video service.

    Landmark Education has been labeled "cult" by the government of France, a "sect" by the government of Austria. They were investigated multiple times by the United States Federal Department of Labor - and an investigation in 2004 by the Federal Department of Labor in France led to Landmark Education shutting down their operations in all of France due to unpaid labor practices.

    Landmark Education is currently a defendant in a wrongful death case in Oklahoma, and also a young man named James Brian Rowe went missing in Colorado directly after attending a Landmark Forum in 2004. His family has not heard from him since.

    More information about the company's controversial history itself, at The Rick Ross Institute, the Skepdic site, Cult News, Introduction to the Landmark Education litigation archive, Landmark Education litigation archive, Apologetics Index, and Cult Awareness and Information Centre. The book OUTRAGEOUS BETRAYAL by Steven Pressman is also a great resource. Chapter 4, A Door to Door Mind Salesman, and Chapter 7, Enlightenment in Two Weekends - The est Training are available online.

    For more information about other controversial Large Group Awareness Training organizations and their methodologies, visit:

    The Truth about Human Potential Seminars

     
  • At 10:45 AM, December 21, 2006, Blogger Unknown said…

    I know a lot about Landmark, strengths and weaknesses. I don't recommend, because I think they mislead spiritually. There was a lot of guilt by association and innuendo in your post. If you want to take down Landmark, here's a better angle.

    Landmark is applied ontology. It is their assertion that it is more important what you are trying to "be" than what your sad story is. Be something different. As far as it goes, that's not bad advice. But Landmark theory is a mile wide and a quarter inch deep. They have no suggestions about who you should be. I do. We are not here just to be. We are here to know God and to love him and praise him in all we do. Kinda hard to "be" that. Yet that is what we really are. The only way to be it is to submit our will to Jesus Christ and let him increase as we decrease, a point completely missed by Werner Erhart and his followers.

    Through the grace of God, I got the message. Hope you did, too. I also spent thirty years with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Got past that one, too.

    Joy to the World

     
  • At 2:11 AM, July 15, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think this is only a problem if you hold the term 'meaningless' as a value judgement, thereby contradicting it (for if it's 'bad' meaning has been attached). To me it says simply that the human mind constantly allocates meaning/meanings, and that it is the source of 'meaning' in human experience. Therefore I am responsible and further, I have no call to go after others who allocate meaning differently just because of that. To me it makes for peace and happiness. It is also the philosophy of the 20th-century 'Absurd' school.

     
  • At 7:59 PM, September 24, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    In the tragedies I have encountered, I have condemned God. Thanks to Landmark, I have let go of the meanings I created regarding my loss. God didn't snatch my child. Thanks to them, I have let go of my suffering, re-established my relationship in love, sponsored Christian Children's Foundation so that others may have a chance, and so, proclaimed God's love. How reborn I feel now in my new emptiness, God may again fill me with whatever He will choose to replace the anger and sorrow Landmark allowed me to discard. Now why did you throw out that bathwater?

     
  • At 1:00 PM, May 09, 2011, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Werner Erhard is a man who experienced genuine transformation and chose to share it with the world in the form of EST/Landmark Forum and a bunch of other courses.

    He is a man (not a deity) who is telling you life is empty and meaningless and it is empty and meaningless that it's empty and meaningless. The joke, in case you missed it, is that while he may be saying that after 3 1/2 days of "proving" the thesis of meaninglessness, his being suggests the opposite - and that opposite is Rick Warren's purpose driven life and ultimate surrender to the triune God which is where all meaning came from anyway - including Werner's meaning about the 'emptiness and meaninglessness of life'.

    If life was indeed empty and meaningless, people would jump off bridges right after the training.

    Instead, they find humility - the whole lot of them at least and a profound relationship with God, or as Werner called it, "that undefinable something not only does not slip away but displays its gathering force ever more luminously in the course of the dialog (of transformation)"

    The "undefinable something" is that which 6.8 billion of us on the planet are present to but choose to ignore. Werner stopped ignoring it in 1971.

    When will the rest of us stop and start to listen to "the undefinable something?"

    The Forum brings people closer to God than any other training available on the planet that I am currently aware of. To not offend anyone, the message is altered and the course is designed to have you look at your OWN arrogance, in that, YOU find life empty and meaningless when you do not want to listen and/or surrender.

    Everytime I chose to disobey God's word, I said to myself - "this is meaningless, scares me, makes me uncomfortable - so I will not listen". The Forum dishes this out to you in a way that you cannot ignore it, because it's YOU... A fallen human being.

    Without God, we ARE nothing. Werner just found a way to serve God in a more contermporary way that works for a certain group/type of people....

     
  • At 11:16 AM, May 11, 2011, Blogger Unknown said…

    I also had great breakthroughs with Landmark. Specifically, I had been living an angry relationship with a family member which isolated us from each other. I felt powerless in the relationship, and just suffered. The Forum gave me a valuable insight. I found that I could just turn off the anger and resentment and re-establish the relationship. Big change.

    My post was really about getting stuck on self-examination. For awhile, I ignored addressing the presence of God in my life and the "tractor beam" I was being reeled in with. Since this thread, I've been fully reconciled to my faith in Christ, experiencing His life and love flowing through me in my relationships if I just get out of the way. Lots of thanks to C. S. Lewis and G. K. Chesterton and N. T. Wright for insights that unblocked me.

    We live in a spiritually pregnant time, and Christianity is under attack everywhere. Great time for us to gird our loins anew. The battle belongs to the Lord.

     

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